Comments in the Cracker Jacks

People on this side of the computer need to remember that there are people on the other side as well.

Lately I, and several of my blogging buddies, have noticed that far too many comments on various Patch articles and posts are hostile, negative, often off-topic, and sometimes just plain crazy. Not all Patch commenters take this approach or enter into the warfare that is out there, but a handful of people are definitely taking the pleasure out of intellectual and meaningful dialog.

That’s why I liken finding a good, useful comment to finding the prize in a box of Cracker Jacks. If you dig around, you’ll find it, but you’ll have to get your hands dirty and deal with a lot of nuts.

Anyone who’s been around the Odenton-Severn Patch long enough has no doubt gotten to know those who should automatically be ignored. These commenters find themselves often entering into hostile arguments without furthering the article or adding to the conversation.

Then there are some who try to claim that their First Amendment rights have been violated when their comments are deleted. The First Amendment doesn’t protect all types of speech and while you have the right to pretty much say whatever you want in your house, you don’t have those same rights in my house without being asked to leave and never return. The same goes for a Web site. The Patch Terms of Use, that all commenters agree to, state:

While we encourage people to be honest and post what’s on their mind, communities thrive when people care about each other, and as such, Patch expects all of its users to be respectful of others. This means that whether you are being complimentary or critical, whether you are agreeing or disagreeing with the subject of an article or another user’s comment, you should act in a civil manner and refrain from personal attacks – after all, these are your neighbors.

Unfortunately, I think we’ve all seen this violated over and over again here on our Patch site. And if you continue to read the Terms of Use, you will see the express prohibition of defamatory, abusive, profane, harassing, or threatening language. These are the only comments that I’ve seen removed. And for all the recent inappropriate comments that someone had been leaving on my blog posts, I only asked for some to be removed because they crossed the line from being about me to being about my ex-wife. As a blogger, I accept and welcome the risk to my name being out there and readers’ being able to comment on my thoughts. But I won’t accept personal comments about my ex-wife or anyone else for that matter.

I think it is a great policy that the Patch doesn’t require real names to register, but that also leads to some of this. As a blogger, I am registered with my real full name and a photo. I think if everyone who commented had to stand behind their statements with their real name, we may see some less hostility and more civility.

So next time you want to comment on an article or a blog post, just remember why the Patch is here. It is to promote and cover our local news. It is our neighborhood. It is our news. And, at the end of the day, it is about us. We should respect that and each other enough to keep our comments civil. Of course, we can and will disagree, but keeping it respectful and productive is why many have died to protect our First Amendment.

At the sound of the bell, come out swinging, but keep it clean.

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Megan Arts Evans August 21, 2012 at 09:19 PM
Well said my friend and fellow blogger. And I totally agree, if we have to have names and photos on our blog posts then you should have to do the same to comment. No hiding folks...
Ronald August 21, 2012 at 11:14 PM
Couldn't agree more. I also don't agree with aliases or derogatory name calling BUT I stand firm that the rules should be applied equally and fairly. Individuals shouldn't be threatened by editors with censorship while allowing their personal agendas that allow a select few to give one side of a story without response. Freedom of speech needs to go both ways. When bloggers post their blogs along with their positions in the community they should be confronted otherwise this is nothing more that free advertisment and political fodder. If Cathy V. wants to post as our State Representative and not as an individual she should be confronted in that capacity. If she wants to blog as an individual that is different. The same goes for Jeff A. of POCA. When he speaks as the POCA President he should be confronted with any misinformation he presents. And when Tim Lemke posts on a blog as the editor for all to see instead of sending a personal e-mail when he has the e-mail address he should be removed as the editor. This is not a forum for power plays. THis forum is a good forum but it is a blog that everyone has a right to blog on. If you allows one sided personal attacks you need to be held accountable. How does one go about starting a blog in this forum. I have requested this information from Tim Lemke and he has simply declined to offer any assistance. I use my real name and hide behind nothing. I also apologize when I am shown to be wrong.
Ronald August 21, 2012 at 11:19 PM
One last comment. If I were in your house and you belittled or disrespected me you wouldn't have to ask me to leave. The PATCH is a quasi-public forum.
Brian C. August 22, 2012 at 12:53 PM
I agree with you Jason. One thing though. This is the internet. How can you know that the name people give you is there real name? You cant . Well you could but that would be an administrative nightmare. Mr. Clean Mr.Clean
"Someone" August 22, 2012 at 01:13 PM
Hiding behind a blog is not much different than hiding behind a comment. You know this better than anyone. You do this better than anyone. You are absolutely right – there are other people on the other side of your blog. So, when you fail to communicate directly with the person you claimed to be the “most important someone” in your life and choose to publicly blog about topics that hurt, offended, dismissed, or even lied to them, you deserve the negative comments in return. Strangely, I started to feel sympathy toward you after your last post, but I am once again reminded of the quality of your character. You are certainly no prize. Happy Birthday “Honey Pot”.
Ronald August 22, 2012 at 01:42 PM
This really sounds personal. I wish you both the best and hope you can work it out. The registration portion of signing on to PATCH could be used to identify bloggers. I think that everyone should have the ability to blog confidentially. Some vocations make it against policies to even be on blogs (god forbid we should know the truth about people). Still - the rules need to be applied evenly and fairly. AND that one A _ _ h _ _ _ needs to be protected and stood up for in order to protect the rights of all.
Tommy Warshaw III August 23, 2012 at 11:01 AM
Well said Jason. Unfortunately the internet will always be a three-ring circus for the ignorant and just plain loony. I agree in concept that people should have to use their real names when posting, but there is no true way (at least not that is simple) to verify that person is actually who they say they are.
Jason Humm August 23, 2012 at 11:36 AM
It would be interesting to see the impact of making people register via Facebook would have on the level of civility in the comments.
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