Four Seasons Community to Hear Two Rivers Plan
Developers will meet with residents Thursday at 7 p.m. at the Waugh Chapel Community Center.
Residents of the Four Seasons community will have their chance to hear details on the Two Rivers development plan on Thursday evening.
The Four Seasons Community Association has scheduled a meeting with developers to hear more about the proposed development, which calls for 2,060 homes and a new elementary school to the south of the Waugh Chapel Towne Centre.
The meeting is scheduled for 7 p.m. at the Waugh Chapel community center.
Residents of Piney Orchard last week met with members of the development team, including officials from Koch Homes and Classic Communities Corp. Alex Szachnowicz, the chief operating officer for Anne Arundel County Public Schools, was also in attendance.
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Ronald
8:20 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Waste of time. It will happen. The politicians have already been paid off.
Jeff Andrade
11:11 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Nearly all of the people attending the packed meeting at Piney Orchard, and the County's Transportation planning office don't seem to agree with you, Scott. They know it provides an access means from an industrially-zoned area into Piney Orchard, would greatly increase traffic (including trucks) on Strawberry Lake Way beyond what it was designed for as well generate more traffic around GORC Park and creates a bottleneck at the new shopping center entrance at Route 3. That's why the developers have refused to share the traffic studies and impact analyses with the press and community groups and we have had to get these through the Public Information Act.
Ronald
8:37 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
For someone who has consistantly hidden the information from POCA meetings, refuses to allow recordings, and refuses to answer question you sure sound like the pot calling the kettle black. At least you have the PIA available in order to get the information. Did you authorize POCA funds pay for any of that? I believe that the only reason you are taking up this 'cause' is because it is bad business for the apartment owners (your 750+ proxies that put the majority of the POCA Board on the Board) to allow any additional residences. And stop telling us you know what the Planning office and Piney Orchard Resident know. You couldn't be more ill informed. There are over 2000 true residents in Piney Orchard - how many have you polled?
Keep going Scott. The louder they shout they more we see their true agenda. I doubt that you are jeolous of Jff - just sick and tired of his bullshit and lies. He represents none of us here in Piney Orchard.
david young
12:30 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Scott: Man, you really live in fantasy land. Get over your jealousy of Jeff.
Please do all of Odenton a favor and NEVER EVER RUN FOR OFFICE AGAIN. You are so anti Odenton, anti community and anti commen sense.
"As someone who's worked in this area for quite a while, it's what I would have done." This comment cements what I've thought of you all along: You are a cheap, lying, hypocrite with no sense for the greater good and who's only interested in your own personal agenda. It's right here in your own words, pal!!
SLAM DUNK FOR THE GOOD FOLK OF ODENTON. DIBIASIO FINALLY CALLED HIMSELF OUT.
Ronald
8:39 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Scott is not a public figure. Why not address the statements instead of attacking a citizen. How about you doing all of Odenton a favor and moving away. Now why not come after me? I'll bet my attorneys are better than yours!
Jeff Andrade
3:43 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
As a former Republican congressional committee staffer and two-time senior political appointee by President Bush, I don't think I've ever been accused of being a liberal. And actually, one of the developers lost his cool at the meeting as we hit them with hard questions and inconvenient truths -- not the least of which is that there is currently a land covenant that requires the housing to be over 55 only. POCA and its supporters in the community stopped this from being quickly rammed through a mid-summer BOE meeting, and are forcing developers to meet with the community and defend their proposals. The more people learn of this, the less they like it. And I've seen your resume Scott, and its very unimpressive.
Ronald
8:42 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Scott is not a public official. How about keeping to the facts instead of slander. As the POCA appointed president you put all of POCA in danger of civil lawsuits when you attack individuals. Seek help. Consider medication. Your last statement in the above blog was not necessary.
Ronald
8:44 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
How about printing a copy of the minutes from that meeting along with the questions and responses? Oh yea. I forgot. You and the POCA Board are totally against keeping records of any kind. What are you afraid of? What are you hiding? I take nothing you say or day at face value.
Dave
8:28 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
I also missed the Piney Orchard meeting - is the Four Seasons meeting open to the public?
Chris W
9:59 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
ive seen alot of suport for this on patch.
the fact is, the schools nearby are going to go under capacity thus allowing the developer to build non age restricted housing. better to take the school now than fight an lose it.
its whats best for the whole community, not just piney orchard.
Jeff Andrade
10:07 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Scott, I am the one making personal attacks? You were the one who put yourself out there as someone who's worked in the political arena for "quite a while" and opined on strategy and a meeting you weren't even at, so I pointed out that I've seen your resume and it's pretty light on experience and accomplishments. So basically you lack credibility. If you look at my comments they deal with the issue at hand, and I am backed by solidly by the Association's members and the Board on raising concerns and opposing the proposal. I also took exception to your comments that those opposed were "liberals" among other things, pointing that as one of the most vocal opponents to this proposal, I am clearly not a liberal. The fact is that we are succeeding in putting a bright light on this proposal, exposing its flaws and there is significant and growing opposition to it. You are entitled to your views, but as you are on most issues, you are clearly on the fringe minority within our community.
Ronald
6:33 am on Friday, August 17, 2012
I believe that the 'fringe minority' is actually the 'silent majority'. As far as the Board supporting you that is obvious since the Board give the appearance of working for the owners of the apartment complexes and their 750 proxies. Wasn't it Susan that was 'elected' by less than 10 real people with the help of the proxies. How is that representative of the communitty. Take away the proxies and you lose the majority of the Board.
Chris W
12:11 am on Friday, August 17, 2012
Jeff, the poll on patch regarding extending the road was 68% supporting the move. Hardly a fringe element. Now Its certainly not scientific, but I have not seen any hard data from you to support your assertion that the community is against this.
Additionally, even if you are correct, this is an issue that effects the greater community and not just PO. To be frank, you do not represent Odenton or west county in general.
I don't mean to get ine the way of you bickering with your constituents, but I feel that people need to look at what is good for the entire area, and not just their individual community.
Ronald
6:26 am on Friday, August 17, 2012
Chris. How many times did you vote and how many aliasis do you have. Obviously I am not a fan of Jeffs but this is a good point he shares. How did he get this information? Is the PATCH sharing with him?
Jeff Andrade
12:58 am on Friday, August 17, 2012
Chris, I had at least 3x more people at our meeting last week than those who responded to that unscientific Patch poll, which allowed those using aliases on Patch to vote multiple times. Our residents and others have weighed in with the Board of Education almost universally against. I have been working with and spoken to the leadership of other associations and groups in West County and several attended our meeting at my invitation.
I dont claim to represent Odenton. And YOU certainly don't. But the fact is that this proposal disproportionately impacts Piney Orchard on several fronts. And Piney Orchard is about one-third of Odenton and is the largest community here. So we are going to continue to make our thousands of voices heard, we are going to continue to work with our friends and neighbors in Crofton, Gambrils and thoughout Odenton, including Forks of the Patuxent with whom we share a lot of common ground. Because we all know that if we dont all hang together, at some we'll hang seperately. You made a choice to move out of Piney Orchard and put your kids in private school. Good for you. But those of us who still live here, who take great pride in our strong, safe, clean community, pay tens of millions in taxes and stay engaged on local issues and VOTE, are not just going to roll over when things like this come through.
Ronald
6:24 am on Friday, August 17, 2012
Finally a blog that makes sense. Thank you Jeff.
Now do something about the the bylaws and covenants at POCA that allow 3 people to place 7 members on the POCA Board and that blocks the votes of the true homeowners. And why are two members on the Board receiving salaries from the apartment complex owners allowed to sit on the Board. Conflict of interest? A violation of the by-laws? How about a legal opinion from a law firm not bought and paid for by the Board. Whether you speak the truth or not until that happens you are simply a representative for them.
Karen C.
7:43 am on Friday, August 17, 2012
What "two-time senior political appointee by President Bush" really means...."I hung around with the Log Cabin Republicans long enough that they gave me some meaningless, non-descript job in the bowels of some federal building"
Larry
7:55 am on Friday, August 17, 2012
My big concern with this whole thing is that the person who is supposedly speaking on behalf of the entire HOA lives within 250 feet of where the road will intererect with SLW. That just doesn't pass the smell test to me. Maybe we'll be lucky and the state/builders of the road will take his house by eminent domain, paying him what it is currently worth which is a lot less than his purchase price, and we can get rid of him in the HOA once and for all.
Jeff Andrade
8:37 am on Friday, August 17, 2012
Gee "Larry" you sound so well informed for someone who just joined Patch this morning. And you raise the same false claims as Scotty the Patch troll, who apparently needs to learn how to use a measuring tape. How predictable and pathetic.