Arundel Middle Teacher Placed on Leave Following 'Disturbing' Video
A video shared on Facebook shows a teacher in a verbal back-and-forth with a student. School officials said the teacher showed "poor judgment."
A teacher at Arundel Middle School was placed on leave after an incident that became public in a video showing what appeared to be a confrontation with students regarding behavior in the classroom. The video of the Wednesday incident was posted online and is under investigation by the school system.
The nearly 14-minute video was originally posted on Facebook and later was also posted to Youtube. It appears to have been taken by another student using a camera phone. It apparently shows a teacher, identified as Latesha Blue, chastising a student for talking back to her.
"Everyone in this classroom saw how you were being disrespectful," the woman in the video says.
The student responds: "And everyone in this classroom saw how you were treating me."
At one point, the woman refers to the student as a "little girl."
"She wants to be grown, but this is what little girls do," the teacher is seen telling the class. "That's how little girls act. If you want to be a grown woman, act like a grown woman and shut your mouth when someone is talking."
The video was recorded on Wednesday, and school officials were notified of the incident before it was posted online, according to Anne Arundel County Public Schools spokesman Bob Mosier.
Arundel Middle School Principal Yolanda Clark said in a letter to parents that Blue had shown "poor judgment" in behavior toward students in two classrooms. The classroom depicted in the video appears to be that of another teacher who is shown only from behind.
"This behavior is inconsistent with that which we expect of our educators, and our school system is addressing this matter quickly," Clark wrote.
Mosier said the school system is investigating the incident and declined to comment on what, if any, rules or policies were broken. He said Blue is on leave indefinitely.
"The video is clearly disturbing," he said. "It is not indicative of the great work our teachers do in the classroom each day."
Mosier said Blue has been a county teacher since August of 2007 and came to Arundel Middle in August of 2010. Blue is listed on the Arundel Middle School website as a teacher in the AVID program.
The origin of the argument is unclear, and it is not known what events preceded those appearing on the video, though at one point the teacher alludes to the fact that she had spoken to one student's mother.
At several points, the teacher refers to her reputation as a teacher in the county and alludes to the notion of students setting her up.
"Everyone at the school board knows me," she said. "Everybody from [Superintendent] Dr. Maxwell on down. So you all can play these games of setting someone up, but I'm not. I have a good name in this school. I have a great reputation not only in this school but through the school board. If you want to go ahead start a mess, you're starting with the wrong person."
After about 10 minutes, the video shows the teacher leaving the room while the other teacher addresses the class.
"When you come across with an attitude and you have a strong-willed person, that only aggravates," the teacher tells the class. "Sometimes what you're saying is perceived as aggressive ... Ms. Blue is very strong-willed."
The video has received wide circulation on Facebook, with more than 280 people sharing it and hundreds more offering comments.
"This woman needs to be fired immediately," Facebook user Autumn Doscher wrote. "Her behavior is absolutely inappropriate."
Other Facebook users offered similar sentiments.
"There is a way to get across your point without making scolding her in front of her classmates. Just adds fuel to the fire, I think," Steve Baker wrote.
Editor's Note: An earlier version of this story incorrectly stated the day in which the incident took place. It happened Wednesday, Feb. 6.
Note: Odenton-Severn Patch initially embedded the relevant video from Facebook, but has since embedded the video from Youtube. Commentary attached to the Youtube clip does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Patch or its staff.
trebleclef
3:36 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
This teacher needs to be permanently suspended, not only for this behavior but for the poor example she sets in the classroom with her grammar - or lack of it.
Shannon Payne
4:58 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
I agree. For a teacher her grammar is not up to par what-so-ever. I’m glad Blue was let go, she needs to be re-evaluated and any former students of hers need to come forward if they had or witnessed similar treatment while she was their educator. As for the other teacher in the classroom, she needed to step in to put out the fire. The fact that she just stood their allowing it to go on and on and on is simply mind boggling. I would like to know what Blue was referring to as to what the student did that was disrespectful. No child should be talked to like that by any educator in any school, I'm all for respect in a school or authoritative position, however Blue took it to another where if I were her student I wouldn't feel safe in her presence. If that were my child she was speaking too, Blue would have an entire different situation on her hands. I’ll be damned you speak to my child(ren) in the manner she did. I would be knocking on your LITTLE door putting my hand your face. She might be a great educator; however how she presented herself to her students is purely unacceptable. I hope her students are now in a better learning environment without her in it. Best of luck to everyone involved, except Blue.
Scott Smolen
4:02 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
It seems like the teacher was reacting (dramatically over reacting) to the perception that she was being set up. The fact that this was recorded may lead credibility to that claim. I would like to know what is going to happen to the other teacher that watched this happen for 14 minutes instead of stepping in and stopping it. This rant prevented any of the other children from accomplishing anything in class.
Mary
4:09 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Wow! She absolutely should have handled this situation differently! She's an adult. She should know better. On a side note, for being a teacher, I'm really surprised at her incorrect use of the English language in her rant. I sure hope that's not the subject she teaches!
Diane Sollers
4:24 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Mary......she is an English teacher.
Denise
12:23 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
It is English that she "taught"
Sarah
2:23 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
No, she is actually not an English teacher. Please get your facts straight.
Tim Lemke
4:22 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
I've deleted a couple of comments that violate our terms of use regarding racist comments.
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Jeanna Beard
10:58 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Thank you. I can't believe that people still openly "talk" like that. Would you say that out loud to a crowd of mixed company? Ugh.
radarradar
4:39 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Unbelievably unprofessional. Is this what passes for a 'teaching moment' in AA County schools? What's the phrase, 'praise in public, criticize in private'? Wow. The entire incident was wrong on so many levels. And as for being a 'set up'; the so-called teacher had 14 minutes to untarnish her alleged reputation. Instead she buried herself up to her neck in ungainly street-drama. Instead of acedemics, she engages in behavior usually reserved for a Jerry Springer episode. Our kids deserve a better example and definitely a better educator.
radarradar
4:46 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
I meant 'academics'. Sorry 'bout that.
Steve Wolverton
5:36 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
This woman obviously leaves a lot to be desired. However, I will say that teachers are fed up with good reason. There is so little discipline and so much "tolerance" and patronizing of poor student behavior and total lack of respect for teachers and authority figures, or anyone else for that matter. I feel for her. If the average person would see and hear what goes on daily in the schools they would be appalled. The CEOs, administrators, and the ACLU have so tied the teachers hands so much I'm surprised that we can even get anyone to still teach. The outright negligence and malpractice in the BCPPS is nothing less than criminal. These students are being failed by their parents and society and then by the school system. Where there is no discipline society crumbles. It has crumbled in the Baltimore schools. I don't know about AA county but both the student and the teacher in this situation should have shut up. My parents would have worn me out and I thank God for that. May God help us. I'm not impressed with this teacher but I'm very disappointed and disgusted the racist commentary and bashing of stereotypes following the article. Teachers should get combat pay. It's a jungle in those schools. Parents who fly off the handle to support their little "angles" under any circumstance are part of the problem and they're not doing their children any respect. Learning begins at home. In Baltimore, many of the students are more mature than their parents.
Sarah
1:46 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
agreed!
Genie Olson
12:12 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
I agree. I feel like there is much more to the story here, and it is not explained. The teacher should have been documenting student behaviors. Sometimes, even documenting does not mean that the teacher will get help with a mean or rude student.
Kimi Cortez
5:42 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Everyone makes mistakes and ms. Blue is no different. As far as her grammar she's obviously upset and not a person alive can tell me their grammar is spotless when they are pissed.finally though she showed poor judgement less not forget there was another teacher there allowing this rant to go on for 15 minutes and then try to explain away what happened. They both should have lost their jobs.
Denise
12:29 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
I don't want the "other" teacher who watched to be fired......my son has her as a Social Studies teacher and she is absolutely wonderful! I do agree that she shouldn't have let this happen in her classroom. The situation should have been taken to the principal or guidance counselor's office--not held in front of an entire classroom during their instructional time. My son is already on teacher # 6 this school year for Language Arts. He doesn't need another "sub".
radarradar
12:27 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
The teacher who's class Ms.Blue decided to 'take over' during her tirade is in no way at fault here. What was she supposed to do? Drag her out? The offending teacher seemed to be pretty unstable, and I'm reasonably certain that she was hoping that her fantatical ranting would soon end and she would slink away.
Kersen Houser
5:51 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Yes, putting up with middle schoolers is a challenge. Especially when the teacher mirrors the exact oppositional defiant behavior they complain about in the kids. Whatever the student did or did not do is not the issue. The immature, inappropriate narcisstic temper tantrum should be fired and the teacher who stood by and did nothing should be put on leave.
radarradar
12:28 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
At Kersen Houser-
Well said!
Pam
5:57 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Wow-the BoE better be bringing her into a hearing.. Not sure how you do it in MD-in NY this would be grounds for it,- but this is over the top. Unfortunately this is just a snapshot of what happens in school districts throughout our country
Carol B
6:10 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
The negative comments about Ms. Blue's behavior are not "racist"--except, perhaps, for the ones that Tim Lemke deleted, which I didn't see. The behavior of these two grown women is unacceptable--each for its own set of reasons--and yes, even with adult students, the prevalence of disrespect is shocking to someone who grew up when your parents automatically took the side of your teachers, if ever you got into trouble in school. Our teachers were on pedestals, and when they were really good, we aspired to be like them. Now they're just service personnel (or worse, free child-care attendants) who are expected to educate their students about manners and ethics and decency and respect and a whole host of things that are not directly related to "readin', writin', and 'rithmetic." But that is still no excuse for the behavior of this teacher, or her colleague. If you can't manage your anger--if you can't follow the accepted protocols (such as sending the child to the principal's office, or telling her you will defer your comments until you meet with her parents, and so on), and you don't know how to defuse such a situation without going banshee in front of the rest of the class, and engaging in a ridiculous tirade that robs them of the opportunity to learn---and if you are so "pissed" that you forget how to speak your native tongue, then you don't belong teaching middle school--no matter what race you are.
Sdwy
6:54 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
SHUT UP! Mrs. Blue is my avid teacher and she would never act like this! That girl was disrespectful and needs to be suspended! This is ridiculous! Mrs. Blue is staying! Please!
radarradar
12:34 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
I won't get into a discussion with a kid, but I to say your statement is strange, as yes, she DID act EXACTLY like this. Look at the video again, kid. And believe me, she won't be humiliating kids at AMS any more.
#TheStruggleOfLife
4:25 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Radar you are leaving out the fact that the little girl was disrespecting Ms. Blue as well so, for you to be saying "that" is a big understatement; because in a way the child asked for it......
Why is no one talking about the child who is getting yelled at She also contributed to this a good bit and led to Ms.Blue getting put on leave. She should be held accountable as well.
Patty
7:27 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Wow. Just watched video. Shame on the teacher and shame on the other adult in the room. This is awful! Unprofessional in 1 million ways for both adults. As teachers we are role models. This is not how you talk to a middle schooler or anybody for that matter.
Calique
7:30 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
"ya'll ain't"??
Really??
Arguing with a child, LIKE a child?? Hand to the kid's face?
This lady needs to go back to the 6th grade playground to argue with her peers.
Good job to the kid who videoed the incident. The other teacher in the room really needed to call the principal and have him come in and break up this situation. This is wasting all of those kids' education time.
Ridiculous. I hope she is let go.
Sarah
2:26 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Good job to the kid who videoed it? That is breaking a school rule. So it is okay for the kids to not follow rules? As well, to video anything in a school, you must have written releases from the parents of EVERY child in that room. Did this kid do that? I doubt it...so, he should receive discipline as well. Don't say the rules are good for some and not for others! I am interrupted at lest 10 times a day by students who are texting during my class. Sometimes, it is their parent doing the texting. We all made it through school with no cell phones. So should they.
Summer
7:59 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
I believe the teacher was wrong to a point.. But in the schools now days teachers do nothing but babysit these kids..f this was my child that made their teacher go off like this I would completely agree with the teacher... There in no way should a child talk to an adult like that.. Yes in a way the teacher could have handled it a little different but I believe she still was not out of line.. This is what the world is coming to now since parents can't seem to raise their children with respect!!!!
Takes respect to earn it!!! These kids think their entitled and guess what ....They are not! !! No one owes them anything!!!
radarradar
12:49 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
You're kidding, right? I don't care what the issue was here. There is no justification for this 'educator' to go into what cannot be considered anything other than 'ghetto' mode a 12 year old kid. And keep in mind that this teacher came into ANOTHER teacher's classroom and SEEKED OUT a kid with whom she had an axe to grind. Quit defending bad teachers.
#TheStruggleOfLife
4:31 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Now i dont know if she was a bad teacher or not.But the child obviously had an effect on the situation in the first place. She should've never gone off on that 12 year old girl like that as she stated in the video " she couldve handled it another way". Radar It seems like you need to sit in a classroom for a good month and rethink your judgments. all teachers get put through soo much grief and its just a matter of time before they crack. They dont get paid enough and they are never paid for the overtime work they do when they take "work" Home.
HM
8:54 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Please Google African American Vernacular Language (AAL) or any of the many terms associated with the recognized language. These are dialects the same way Southern American English is a dialect. It is unfair, and dare I say racist, to imply this teacher is somehow uneducated or does not know Standard English. Few people express their frustration in dialect-free standard english.
Calique
1:43 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
A "vernacular" is NOT correct use of the language. It is slang at best, and inherently incorrect. An EDUCATOR should speak in a proper professional manner, using correct English grammar. She can speak in her "vernacular" on her own time.
radarradar
10:59 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
@thestruggleoflife
As a matter of fact, I HAVE been in classrooms for over twenty years. And I have been in very 'challenging schools. And I have NEVER lost control of a class like that, nor have I ever lowered myself to the point of going nose to nose with a ten year old. So please, quit defending bad teachers. It does a disservice to the good ones.
Ryan Turpin
9:05 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
Plz release the video I wanna show ppl I witnessed this I was there
Concerned Parent
10:50 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
My child was selected for the Avid program in the fifth grade. And had Ms. Blue for 2 years and dropped the class this year. My child felt Ms. Blue was putting him down couldn't do anything right. Last year in the last quarter Ms. Blue was out on leave. And my child did very well in the class. It is bad enough the students bully each other but is unacceptable from teachers.
Sarah
2:28 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Why air the teacher's dirty laundry unless you have the facts? Unless you know WHY she was out at the end of the year, don't talk about it. It really is none of your business anyway...
Linda g.
11:03 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
This video shows just how much teachers, staff members, abuse, threaten our kids while in school. I've been inside these schools & have seen and heard how "the educators" act. The past principal of this school was infamous of playing favoritism to students of the same race. I say they should all grow up & act like adults.
marlboro girl
11:05 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
I don't condone Ms. Blue's arguing with a child for such an extensive period of time. That said, why is it acceptable for CHILDREN to talk back and be disrespectful to teachers? I'm in my 40's and I remember teachers getting in our faces, but at the same time we respected them. Kids today are have no respect for authority figures. It's obvious by the reaction on these kids. And again, why are phones allowed in the classroom???
Mary
11:39 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
My question, too!! Cell phones should not be allowed in the classrooms. I can't tell you how many kids I know who text and surf Facebook during class. Ridiculous!
Calique
1:46 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
It is NOT acceptable for children to talk back and disrespect teachers. However, it is the teacher's job to rise above it and remain mature and professional when faced with a disrespectful student. Send her to the Principal's office and get on with the lesson.
radarradar
2:09 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
I'm on the fence regarding cell phones in the classroom, but I will say this. If it wasn't for a kid documenting this incident with his/her cell phone, I am pretty sure that this issue would have gone unaddressed. This is not the first wacky teacher put in a position of educating our kids at AMS. The principal was canned over the summer, and Ms. Blue, ironically, was a replacement for yet another teacher who was involved in some sort of physical altercation with a student. Teachers Gone Wild! I hope the recently hired Principal, who seems to actually have the students interest at heart, can straighten this mess out. I wouldn't worry about Ms. Blue too much, though. She will certainly be hidden within the system, with limited contact with students. Probably in the 'Equity Assurance' section, where those unable to actually teach are shelved, doing nothing, yet still sucking away tax revenue that could be used to actually help kids. Why, because cowardly our BOE refuses to fire ineffective teachers, for fear of being sued for discrimination (That's how the 'Equity Assurance' department was created; to appease a disgruntled employee they had no place for. Look it up). Sigh, just what we need, racially motivated employees with an axe to grind, helping to shape County policy. Absolutely disgusting. Tell me I'm wrong.
#TheStruggleOfLife
4:34 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Obviously the video Didn't show the Full situation form before Ms.Blue entered the room. Maybe if we had both sides to this story it will be easier to understand why she acted the way she did towards that 12 year old girl.
Sarah
2:30 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Wow, all of you teacher haters should come to the school and hang out with me for a day. PLEASE do...see what REALLY happens. Radarradar, you seem to get a lot of misinformation. The principal, Dr. Ashworth, was not "canned" as you say, but rather was promoted to a position at the board of ed.
Tellitlikeitis
11:05 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
sadworldwelivin you dear sir are an idiot so stay off the internet. The teacher was obviously frustrated and approached the situation in the wrong manner but from what i gather the student was no angel by any means. As a parent of a student at this school (AND IN THIS CLASS) I have heard nothing but good things about Ms Blue and she was given this class recently to clean up a prior issue with a teacher and student in the same class (that teacher was relocated). Perhaps the parents should take some of the brunt in rearing you child to be respectful and not be a constant disruption in the classroom for others. Another issue is the class size and the fact that they are grossly overcrowded and a lot for one teacher to attempt to instruct and have to discipline a bunch of out of control adolescents. Ms Blue should be reprimanded along with the other teacher but by no means should she lose her job.
radarradar
2:17 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Tellitlikeitis-
Your facts are simply WRONG. She came into ANOTHER teacher's classroom and confronted the student, after having a confrontation with the SAME student the day before. She apologized to the student's parents the prior evening for her THROWING THE STUDENT'S ONTO THE FLOOR. The lady obviously has no self-control.
radarradar
11:14 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
@Sarah
You're kidding me, right? The former principal was indeed CANNED after she insisted on continuing an ILLEGAL, race-based school group. Until, that is, was exposed by a parent who had the bravado to call her out while testifying before the school board. Unfortunately, the cowards in high places don't actually FIRE anyone; they simply 'warehouse' bad teachers and administrators, basically paying them to not come into contact with kids. Which wastes money that could certainly be used to hire better teachers. You are among the ill-informed, not me.
old time teacher
11:28 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
It is hard enough to teach and be second guessed Teacher today can be insulted by student cursed at and video taped by snot nosed children who car ruin a good teachers career.Its seems that a teacher has to teach with both hands tied behind their backs and children have no consequences just the teacher who by one lapse of judgement can lose their careers
marlboro girl
11:59 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
I would have to agree. Parents today want to be friends with their kids instead of parents and unfortunately may kids suffer because they are not taught the valuable lessons. Instead todays youth have an unrealistic lack of respect but overblown sense of entitlement. If these were my kids I would be mortified at their behavior and would realize that as the parent I have failed them. People need to stop blaming our educators and place the responsible for general behavioral issues back on the parents.
I am a parent and lord forbid my child behaves like this in the future. I was also a fairly bad student (although not disrepectful) who has had my fair share of teacher issues growing up, but I was taught to obey my elders and bite my lip, which I did on many occasions. I knew full well that if I ran my mouth I'd have to deal with my parents punishment too. And they had to get pretty creative with punishments as I put them to the test. But kudos to them for bringing me up right!
radarradar
2:18 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Throwing the student's BOOKS onto the floor, I meant.
radarradar
2:38 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
While I completely agree that teachers today are way too limited in ways they can control misbehaving students, would you REALLY want to empower THIS teacher with anger management issues with other ways to humiliate and otherwise bully our kids? Really?
Steve Wolverton
11:32 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013
I agree with Carol. Nevertheless, teachers have an impossible task in today's environment. So many are at their wits end. The state board is pushing for reduction in suspensions in all the districts at all cost. They are negligently harboring juvenile criminals in the name of budget allocations and graduations statistics while endangering teachers and other students. I am pleased that Tim removed the ignorant comments. They were very offensive and embarrassing. I am a Caucasian and I'm not a teacher but I call it how I see it.
radarradar
2:43 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Don't be too niave, my guilt-ridden liberal friend. The Principal was removed as a result of her embracing a racially-divisive club that denied membership based on race. Which is why the current Principal is being embraced. She want ALL students to improve, period.
Sarah
2:32 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Radarradar, wrong again. We want all students to succeed. However, those with free/reduced meal benefits, special ed, and those who are of non-white race are TARGETED and we are told those are the ones who had BETTER improve. I ask why we have to see color. Why can't we ask all students to meet the goals?
mtx
12:02 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
I'm sorry but angel or not this child was flat out taunted by the teacher! Really back off you were spitting in her face!
old time teacher
7:28 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
The truth of the matter the student know that if the parent makes a big enough stink the teacher has a problem and depending on the circumstances and if the teacher violated any district rules and how the union reacts the outcome is up in the air . And what lessons are we teaching are children. In the real world if you have a problem with an employee you just cant expect mangement to fire the employee. A teacher has to both plan and execute a lesson plan and keep the students engaged with due to government NCLB they have everyone looking over your shoulder and the lesson can be engaging the entire class but it just takes one student to destroy a lesson that was engaging the entire class. And because the parent is indirectly employees the entire district they have an inordinate amount of influance. Also these children are our future and if they behave this way as children knowing they are no consequence when they become adults they will find out that there are consequence for all their acts both good and bad and no one will bail out a adult
radarradar
11:20 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
@Sarah
If that is indeed the case, YOU and your fellow educators have a responsibility to take a stand against the administration and get the focus back on educating those who are in class for the right reasons. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
laura
6:59 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Glad the teacher is being disciplined but this kid is real piece of work too...her parents should be VERY embarrassed about what they have raised. These kids are disgusting and this is why we can't get good teachers (or keep good teachers) in our area middle schools. I would have never DREAMED of talking back to a teacher and threatening a teacher that my mom will get her fired. If that was my kid they would have severe consequences at home for this behavior.
Maggie
9:20 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Laura you are so right . The teachers in this case both should be accountable and the young girl .. I believe both teachers should be dealt with not fired and the young girl should be dealt with period . Children need to know it is not ok to behave like this really telling the teacher her mom will get her fired ? The other teacher in the classroom just standing there, really, its her classroom where is her controll ? Should she have asked Ms blue to leave and call the parents of this girl ? Something anything ? The student fliming this, yes i have a problem with someone filming others unknowningly, big problem there as well and needs to be dealt with as well.We need to teach our kids in this day and age what is right and wrong behaviors being one step . This young girl has no concept of how bad she is acting and will go on to have entitlement issues which is sad .
Kate Giancola-Enders
9:36 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
You all have no right to judge unless you are a classroom teacher...try it for a day and then get back to me!
radarradar
2:23 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Wrong. We, as taxpayers have EVERY right to judge. I've instructed in schools for over twenty years. If a teache'rs classroom management skills are so lacking, it might be time to try another profession.
Sarah
2:32 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Kara, they don't, and won't get it...easier to pass the blame. A shame, really, as teaching is what I was born to do, and I am really good at it. However, I want out. Tired of working a second job 30 hours a week because my chosen profession won't give me raises I am entitled to, yet have no issues with kids failing over and over again.
Sarah
2:36 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
radarradar...my sad, misinformed friend. You have a RIGHT to JUDGE us? Really? So, do we have a right to judge you as parents, especially since 10% of our job rating is based on whether or not your kids ATTEND school? Because in middle school, I have almost half of my kids who are absent 30% of the time or more. I have one girl I have seen three times ALL YEAR. So, in your words, "if a teacher's classroom skills are so lacking, it might be time to try another profession." Okay, let's take the kids who are not only failing MY class, but every one they have, gym included. I guess it is ALL of our faults. Never blame the child or the parents. Better yet, let's make your tax returns as parents dependent on how your children do in school academically, behaviorally, and attendance wise. Want to judge? Let's make it a FAIR playing field.
Chris W
9:38 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Sorry, but you are not "entitled" to a raise. You decided on a career in public service. Perhaps you should have gone into business or something else.
mark
10:17 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Imagine if the teacher was white and student black, then it would of been a Racist video...i still stand behind the Teacher, kids and Mostly parents are Idiots today..most parents back their kid when they do wrong like some of you on here..kids know that and thats why they act up..cuz todays parents are morons most of them shouldnt b havn kids
radarradar
2:25 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Nice, moronic statement. Most parents are idiots. Not YOU, of course. A complete waste of a posting.
radarradar
11:49 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
@Sarah,my liberal, public-sector union lackey. My kids are EXCELLENT students, maintaining good grades, possessing good morals and show pride in their school. Yet they see teachers who sit back while bad kids disrupt class over and over and over again. Show a spine, quit complaining and stand up for the deserving kids. And, yes, as taxpayers we have EVERY right to judge those who receive OUR hard earned money in order to make sure it's spent properly. Why aren't teachers going en mass to the BOE to demand that bad kids (especially their parents) are held responsible for their kids behavior? Could it be that they are fearful of hurting the 'self esteem of kids acting like thugs, or are they too busy complaining about pay-related issues (really, you are not the only public-sector employees going without raises). Maybe you should consider saving some bucks by leaving your money-sucking unions. I don't see teachers getting much bang for their buck in that regard, unless you think protecting bad teachers instead of rewarding good ones is a worthy goal.
Crofton Mom
10:18 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
My oldest son is 8 and we are (hopefully) raising him to respect/obey his elders. (With that in mind, we have delicately explained the exception to that rule in regards to sexual predators who tend to seek out "obedient" children.) If my child was talking back to a teacher, regardless of the teachers behavior, he would be in hot water! My son knows the proper channels to take if he has issues with a teacher that are unprovoked. This could have been an ongoing issue with this student (which is perhaps why the other teacher didn't step in) that the principal and/or parents have failed to correct. As always, the video only shows the result of the initial offense. Sure, two wrongs don't make a right but I don't blame Ms. Blue one bit for finally loosing her cool. There always seems to be one or two disruptive kids in every classroom and it ticks me off that the teacher has to continually address these students and therefore wasting valuable time that should be used educating MY child. Yes, Ms. Blue spent 14 minutes trying to make an example of this student but how much time has this girl wasted of Ms. Blue's (and the other students) in the past? A middle schooler darn we'll knows they shouldn't be talking in class.
Sarah
2:05 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
There is much more disruption than you think. I teach middle school. I am appalled and shocked at how kids act towards adults, each other, and the lack of respect for grades and school property. I feel like I am selling a piece of my soul every day I enter the building, and I count the days til the summer. There are still good kids, yes, but honestly, they number about 25% of what I teach. Thanks for being a PARENT, not just an egg donor.
Crofton Mom
10:20 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
The ONLY lesson that will be learned if Ms. Blue is permanently let go is that the students now know they can behave any way they want and not be disciplined! Some of these parents won't get involved when their child is the problem but as soon as someone else attempts to correct their behavior mom and dad would come to the rescue to defend their sweet innocent child. Those are probably the same parents that would slap their child if they ever talked back to them and the same parents that would look for a way to sue the school for "parenting" their child. No, I'm not suggesting that anything I stated is true for that girl or her family but in general, disruptive students are a real issue in schools today because of the lack of discipline due to this lawsuit happy society.
Tracy
11:58 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
To Crofton Mom-
You are either missing a big part of this story, or are deliberately ignoring it. The day before this incident the child involved asked that she be allowed to move her desk, as she was unable to see what she needed to see in order to get the information she needed for class. Ms. Blue refused to let her move her desk, for whatever reason. The kid again asked, and the teacher again refused. The kid allegedly took it upon herself to move her desk, at which time Ms. Blue took the kid's books and threw them onto the floor. Don't know for sure how the confrontation ended, but later that evening the teacher supposedly called the parents and appologized for her losing her temper. The matter seemed to be over, until the next day. when Ms. Blue actually came to ANOTHER teachers classroom and initiated the incident now immortalized on video. So your assertion regarding students behavior in NO WAY applys here. The teacher had an axe to grind with a 12 year old, and somehow found it appropiate to disturb an entire class for almost 15 minutes in an attempt to embarrass and humiliate a student over an issue that seemed to have been settled. You are simply wrong in this matter.
Brian
1:06 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
@Tracy there had to be something else that happened between the apology to the parents the evening before and the incident in the video. I am sure (though could be wrong) that Ms. Blue didnt come in the next morning and decide to confront this child.
If what you are saying is true the child was challenging Ms. Blue's authority in her class room the day before. You nor I know why Ms. Blue would not let that child move her desk. I would suggest that there was a valid reason for it.
SN: If the child cant see from her seat then the Guardian of that child needs to look at getting that child glasses
Sarah
2:03 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Tracy...you were there? You know the whole story? or just the part of it you were TOLD...
Tim Lemke
10:56 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013
I've deleted another racist comment. It's easier and faster for me to delete such comments than for people to write them.
Sarah
2:02 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
as for the people making racist comments, that is just as ignorant as what they are saying the teacher did...
Denise
1:14 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
@ Tracy....that is what I heard happened to. The child may have been disrespectful...I don't know the whole story, or what was said between the 2 of them "off camera"....but I heard it all started when the student asked to move her seat because she couldn't see. Why wouldn't the teacher let her move? My son's classrooms get moved around all the time. And what kid asks to be moved to the front of a room, unless they CANNOT honestly see the information? I asked to have my son moved because he was having trouble concentrating in the back of the room due to other students talking, poking him, etc. The teachers moved him the next day. Sounds like a simple request that should have been handled a lot differently. It was just so disturbing to see the teacher act this way. The student kept saying, "What did I do wrong?". The students are suffering....and my son is one of them....this is the 6th teacher for that Language Arts class this school year....ridiculous.
Madelyn B
2:20 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Teachers have it hard. Having to deal with (rude) kids all day. I can't imagine the stress. God bless them all.
Sarah
2:02 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Thanks for noticing!
Teresa
2:21 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
I don't know what prompted this, but it may have been justified. There is no disciple in schools any more and not much more in their homes. Things are going downhill fast if you can't give a 6th grader a stern lecture. Send the kid to the principal's office and get back to actually teaching the rest of the kids.
radarradar
2:49 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Teresa-
Have you read ANY of the facts listed above? There is a HUGE difference between a 'stern lecture' and public humiliation. As I stated earlier; She came into ANOTHER teacher's classroom and confronted the student, after having a confrontation with the SAME student the day before. She apologized to the student's parents the prior evening for her THROWING THE STUDENT'S ONTO THE FLOOR. She came there looking for a fight. Tell me, what part of this was justified? The moment she entered someone elses class to initiate a confrontation with this kid, the fault lies fully on the 'teacher'.
Brian
1:12 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
@RR what prompted this teacher to seek out this child in another classroom? I dont know. I am not sure you know either. If you do know you are keeping to yourself. Until you know what prompted this teacher to seek out this child, I think you shouldnt speak loudly.
The one who throws the second punch always gets caught.
Chris W
9:47 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
There is a right way and a wrong way to deal with problem students. This teacher chose the wrong way and deserves what she gets. The student may have been challenging her authority. She may have acted out in different ways. If that was the case, the teacher should have referred her to the principal, that is why they are there.
Odenton Mom
4:08 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
my child goes to AMS and has been chastised similar to the way this teacher did only not as long by four teachers. The BOE knows that there are issues with AMS but don't do anything about it. It's time for Dr. Maxwell to take some sort of action. When is the school town hall meeting?
BeenThereDoneThat
3:39 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Your child behaves in such a way that he or she has been chastised by FOUR teachers, and your position is that your child's problem lies with the Board of Education? Interesting illustration of previous comments. Thanks.
Lisa Huffman Webber
4:17 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
I agree that teachers have a very difficult job, especially middle school teachers. I couldn't do it. What I don't understand is why those who can't handle it stay in the profession. This woman obviously does not have the patience that it requires. At Crofton Middle, one of my daughters science teachers told the class she couldn't wait to retire and that she hated kids. Seriously? We had an issue with another science teacher and I asked for a conference. This teacher also liked getting in the kids faces and would spray them with her saliva. This teacher sat across from me, in front of the principal and rolled her eyes. Talk about disrespect. Most teachers are great, just like most people are great, but some teachers and some people are just jerks, plain and simple. Just because they become a teacher doesn't all of a sudden make them a good person if they are not.
Sarah
2:01 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Lisa,
Maybe because many of us have invested 20 or more years on the job and have degrees that trained us to do that. The question is why we do not enjoy the job as we once did. WE are not the ones who are different. It is the lack of parenting that has made the kids so rude. So ask this...why have kids if you are not going to parent? Don't suggest that we who are fed up with no raises in 5 years and increased work loads should just leave...you may just get your wish. Are YOU willing to step in and do our jobs? Would you do a job where you are constantly disrespected by children, asked to do more and more work for less money every year? Feel free to take my place...Provide pencils and paper for about 80 students a day who NEVER bring any, yet pull iPhones out of their pockets and have Dr. Dre headsets hanging around their necks...their parents can afford it a lot more than I can, but it is left to people like me, because their parents are not doing their jobs.
Crofton Mom
5:09 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
@ Tracy, I based my opinion/comment on the information provided in the article which is "missing a big part of the story." You alleged several things that weren't even stated here. Yes, I know that there is more to the story and that is why I wrote: "No, I'm not suggesting that anything I stated is true for that girl or her family but in general, disruptive students are a real issue in schools today because of the lack of discipline due to this lawsuit happy society."
old time teacher
5:54 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
I teach and because of this video I have to be vigilant and even more careful of what I say to a student no matter what the discipline problem is because I will not know when I am being filmed by students who have an axe to grind with the teacher and all this does is give the students more leverage to behave knowing that the teacher can say nothing but document the behavior write it down and build a case against offending students and go to the adminstration and the results will be with documentation the student will have to explain and then more severe consequences will be handed to the student rather then letting the teacher handle the problem in the classroom the teacher will be more aware of their liability and learning will be hurt because some children think they are classroom lawyers and they know the law and the rules. Before I do anything I think twice act once and when it doubt ask a supervisior
Frank Lee Doobyus
8:44 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
The story is shocking and disheartening.
I'm not sure what the "racist" comments Lemke deleted were, but that's unfortunate.
I believe that to be unable to consider the idea that race and cultural differences may be a factor in disagreements in our culture today may \well in itself be ... racist.
I think it's obtuse to ignore that, in our "culture of entitlement" today, many people believe they are justified in being extremely overly-aggressive in their reactions.
There are good kids and not so good kids; that tends to be a matter of childish inexperience. There are good adults and bad adults; that tends to be a matter of willful choice.
At the risk of being deleted ((small joke ... chuckle)) my life experience tells me that Ms. Blue's over-reaction and - let's be honest - aggressive and abusive verbal and physical assault on the young girl and other kids in the class - very likely has at least some of its roots in her feeling that she is entitled to such over-reaction, language, and behavior ... because she is black.
You can agree. You can disagree. The fact of the matter is the behavior by both the adult teacher and the student(s) was just plain wrong. It is, I would suggest, "more" wrong for the adult than the kids.
For anyone to think that such outrageous behavior by a teacher should in any way be excusable because of her race is - quite simply - racist twaddle.
Brian
1:19 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
@ FLD I would suggest that her sense of entitlement comes from her being a teacher.
Frank Lee Doobyus
11:27 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
@ Brian: I think you're absolutely right! To be a teacher, and (ostensibly) an "adult" and to have your authority - at least from your perspective - challenged by a student ... I agree that would likely be the primary source of a sense of entitlement. Very good point. Thanks for making it!
Big Poppa Pump
10:48 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
Clearly friction exist between the student and the teacher that has not been properly dealt with at this time.. Based on the video, the teacher did not shed a positive light on herself. While preaching about respect to the students she showed a lack of it for her co-worker when disrupting her class. WIthout all the facts, I think firing the teacher may be premature. It's easy to be horrified by what we viewed, but imagine an UNKNOWING eye watching your every move while at work and showing it to the world to see.. I would imagine at some point it may not be so flattering. Taking it a step further, place that UNKNOWING eye on the students and I think we will quickly find out that they are not the angels they portray themselves to be. In the video you can see one student dancing at his desk. Why is this not seen as inappropriate behavior? Perhaps the solution is creating a even playing field and placing cameras in all of the rooms. This way inappropriate behavior by either the teacher or student can be dealt with accordingly.
Brian
1:22 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
just a thought here Big PP......Maybe Ms. Blue asked the other teacher for permission to speak to this child in her classroom....just a thought.
Cameras in the school good idea.
RaQeeba Milner
9:49 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
Sum of it all in my opinion: I believe that if we teach our children respect, self discipline and how to deal with adult confrontation (by informing another adult or parent and letting them handle the situation) instead of blaming someone else for parental shortfall, then maybe teachers can actually do their job, which is to TEACH and not be forced to do OUR job which is to DISCIPLINE. These days parents are too quick to say they are so busy that properly "RAISEing" their children comes far behind 1st. So when they wind up 30 still living at home with a resume that couldn't get them a Management job at McDonalds it winds up the fault of the School System....Sad. Was the teach OVER the top? Yes. However had she been able to do her job (TEACH) then maybe she wouldn't have been so aggravated in the first place.
radarradar
11:22 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
RaQeeba Milner-
I'd be with you, except for the fact she CAME INTO ANOTHER TEACHER'S CLASSROOM. SHE choose to dress the kid down in front of other students. And from what I saw in the video, the VAST majority of the kids in the class were respectful and self-disciplined (despite that fact that this 'teacher' thought it was appropiate to invade the learning enviornment of another classroom). She handled it 100% wrong. Period. Opine all you want about the lack of repect of kids today. This teacher showed those present exactly how NOT to conduct one's self in a school setting. Quit making excuses for bad teachers.
Brian
1:25 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Radar do you happen to know if the other teacher granted Ms. Blue permission to speak with this child in her classroom?
Sarah
1:56 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
God bless you! You get it!
Mr. Notnedo
6:31 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
The teacher moved into the girl's personal space several times. That's threatening and intimidation.
Tina
7:57 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
This is just one incident of a teacher not able to control her teaching environment. I had 4 children go through AMS and AHS and you had bad teachers and good teachers. This is just one incident that we were able to see, just think about all the others that we were not able to see. I'm so GLAD cell phones are in the classroom for just this reason. Keep the teachers accountable. We are trusting them with our children 8 hours a day. If this was your child being yelled at how would you feel. I'm also glad cell phones are in the classroom for emergency situations that have been occurring in schools around the country. Camera's should be in every classroom and school in the county and monitored.
Sarah
1:54 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
This is amazing how very few of you comment on the inappropriate behavior shown byt the kids...the one boy, John, dancing, and the other kids adopting their attitudes. Yes, I understand that perhaps the teacher went too far, and I agree. I am also a teacher and I do not choose to have such banter with disrespectful students because I am not going to listen to the trash that many of them think is okay to spew out of their undisciplined mouths. Anne Arundel County has instituted a 50% grade minimum policy...wake UP, people! We have to give a child 50% who did NOTHING in our classes. Students of mine have earned a 2%, 6% for the marking period, and they get a 50%? It is because they are not being taught at home that school is important, that school work is NOT an option, and that respecting adults is mandatory. I deal with students walking past my hallway CURSING at least 20 times a day, throwing things at my doors, drawing male genitals on the walls with Sharpies...trust me, it is just the start of things I could tell you. NO respect, NO effort, and this ridiculous sense of entitilement. Disgusting. These kids who are 12 and 13 cannot write a complete sentence, and berate me for expecting proper capitalization and punctuation. I have been insulted, sexually harassed, hit, cursed at, and had property I buy for the classroom STOLEN on a daily basis. And yet phones are not allowed to be on in class; what about the person videoing this? Where is the consequence for him?
Jordan
8:41 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Most teachers don't abide by the phone rule and most schools changed the no electronics rule during school hours so they are more used without penalty.
Jeff Andrade
2:39 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
I agree with Scott Smolen that this looks like a setup given the fact it was recorded by a student, and agree that this all went on way to long. That girl should have been bounced out of the class in less than 2 minutes, and then let everyone get back to work. This kid is not the teacher's peer. You don't allow a dialogue with these little punks. This whole incident and the comments from other teachers on what's really happening in the schools, is just another example of the out-of-touch leadership of Superintendent Maxwell and his crew and the unelected Board of Education that has been keeping him there. We won't get stuff like this to change until we get some accountability at the top to the taxpayers who are providing the funds for this.
John Severino
6:13 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Cameras in the classroom are a good idea for many reasons. Most of you seem to be ignoring the information as to Blue taking over the other teacher's class to perform this action. That point, if true, makes the action premeditated and therefore inexcusable.
Points are being raised about the pressures on teachers, the incompetence of many teachers, and the lack of respect shown by students. I agree that all three exist.
But fixing all of that is not a prerequisite making a call as to whether this teacher and the by standing teacher acted inappropriatly. I think both did and that Blue should be dismissed and the bystander should be suspended. The student did nothing wrong that I could see.
Again, cameras in the classroom are a good idea for a society such as ours where adults cannot be trusted to act like civilized adults without universal scrutiny. And perhaps cameras would prove to a child's hyper individualistic, selfish, and entitlement expecting parents that their child is not perfect.
radarradar
11:57 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
I completely agree that cameras would be helpful.
Jordan
8:47 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
The fact that she didn't call an advocate or have an administrator take care of the incident immediately is what confuses me. Taking time away from not one but TWO classes just to prove a point to a child. Any administrator could have called home and talked to the child -- usually straighten your attitude or go home is whats said. But to cause commotion and get within the child's face is premature.
radarradar
11:58 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Well said.
Shane Wolfe
6:49 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
I'm not agreeing that what the teacher did was OK, but I'm really surprised this video is still up. I haven't watch the whole thing, but at any moment does she realize or is she told that she is being recorded? Maryland has some pretty strict wire-tapping laws.
radarradar
8:51 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
From what I've gathered the teacher was never aware. And I really do not care WHAT law the kid may have broken. If this incident was never documented, I doubt that the school would have taken any type of action against the 'teacher' involved. Those laws are antiquated and should be struck from the books. Big Brother should not be the only entitiy out there able to record and document what's going on in the world.
Kelly Ricker
1:16 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
My children go to Anne Arundel County Public Schools. This is not the first time this has happened with a teacher however just the first time caught on tape. I would never want to have the job as a teacher. They are to teach our children however more and more they are babysitting our out of control children. I would not tolerate a teacher talking to my child like that but again I would tolerate my child talking to a teacher like this. I wish we had the full story on what caused this. I feel sorry for all in this matter the children, the teachers and now the school.
bob
6:37 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
All things considered, I think the BOE could use this video for new teachers on how NOT to resolve a dispute with a student
bob
6:38 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Hey TEACHERS leave them kids ALONE! :-)
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