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ANALYSIS: Two Rivers and a New School

Breaking down the discussion of a new development at the south end of Odenton.

 

On Wednesday, the Anne Arundel County Board of Education heard a proposal from a team of developers offering to build an elementary school near the Odenton/Crofton border, south of Piney Orchard.

Since there is a lot at play here, I decided to do a Q&A explainer to break down the various issues involved. If you have other questions related to this, throw them my way in the comments.

OK, so who is proposing to do what?

Koch Homes and Classic Communities Corp. have plans to build 2,060 homes near the Odenton/Crofton border, not far from the Capitol Raceway. The project is referred to as Two Rivers. To accommodate students from the project, they have offered to build an elementary school nearby at a cost of $38 million.

Wait, I thought the Two Rivers project was supposed to be a 55-and-over development.

So did a lot of people. But the developers said market conditions and demographics changed. And with proposed expansions at Crofton Elementary and Crofton Middle schools, they will be permitted to move forward because there will technically be school capacity in the area.

But if Crofton Elementary and Middle Schools will be "open," why would the developers pay $38 million for a new school?

If students from Two Rivers head to Crofton Elementary, that would put the school back to over capacity, or close to it. The school system wouldn't be thrilled with that. Furthermore, the school system would prefer not to bus students across Maryland Route 3.

How big would the school be? Who would it serve?

It would be about 90,000 square feet in size with a large gym, 32 classrooms and space for after care programs. It would sit on 17 acres and have space set aside for new playing fields that could be used by the broader community.

The second question is hard to answer at this point. Presumably, the school would accommodate those students from Two Rivers. (A projected 373 students by 2023.) But it could also serve folks from Piney Orchard, Four Seasons or other nearby communities. It will all depend on available space at other nearby schools and the impact of other new developments.

What about the high school and middle schools? They're getting crowded, too!

Two Rivers Elementary School will feed into Arundel Middle School and Arundel High School, which are currently still open to new students. Officials predict the Two Rivers development will add 185 new students at Arundel Middle School and 228 students to Arundel High School by 2023. That would put both of those schools over capacity. But the school system has 11 years to find a solution to that problem.

Is this a done deal?

No. Developers on Wednesday were hoping that the school board would sign off on their concept plan, but the board held off on voting until at least Aug. 22. If the board approves the plan—not a guarantee—that simply authorizes the developers to enter into negotiations for a construction agreement. There's a lot of work still to be done.

What's the deal with the extension of Evergreen Road?

The developers and school officials said it makes sense to extend Evergreen Road up to Piney Orchard, because it would allow buses to easily get to the school without going onto the busy Maryland Route 3. They say they've looked at other possibilities, but all had hurdles that would be too hard to overcome. (Resident opposition, environmental concerns, geography.)

The current proposal calls for the road to hit Piney Orchard at Strawberry Lake Way, taking away just under an acre of land from GORC Park. (The developers said they'll give about 2.2 acres back.) Of course if the road is approved, it begs the question of who else would drive on it? Presumably, it could be used as a cut-through to get from Piney Orchard to the Waugh Chapel shopping centers, so some residents might see it as a good thing.

But others are less than thrilled about a road cutting through GORC Park. There are a lot of details unclear, such as what proximity the road would have to ballfields, and whether the road would be used to serve trucks from the proposed landfill operations nearby.

At this point, the road is still in the early design phase and isn't yet close to approval. If community groups get their way, there will be an opportunity for them to weigh in on this and present alternatives.

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Related Topics: Anne Arundel County Board of Education, Koch Homes, Two Rivers, and new school

Karts Huseonica

7:14 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

Nice job Tim. This is VERY helpful. Cheers, Karen & Art (Karts) Huseonica

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MM

7:43 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

With the middle and high schools being at or over capacity, I really wish the county and developers would consider something NOW instead of having 11 years for figure that out!! And quite honestly I have no faith in the projections of new students, Chuck Yocum was completely off during the Piney Orchard redistricting several years ago, the county way under estimated numbers!

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Geneva

8:57 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

I am very new to this community at large. So kudos to you Tim Lemke... it is important that the community knows what is ahead for them. So many times developers can produce so much in writings and drawings - and before the project is off the ground - change orders come into play. I will be looking forward to the follow-ups as this project moves forward, since it was slated for one project and has now transformed into another.

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Shanna

9:08 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

11 years to figure something out for the Middle and High school? Are you crazy? You think every person that moves in will only have a toddler? That's absurd!!!!!

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John

9:29 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

Plans like this backfire 99% of the time. They're trying to turn this area into a metropolis - but then traffic becomes a living nightmare and everything starts to crumble. It becomes hard to sell your home when all roads turn into parking lots.

Waugh Chapel South will be firing on all cylinders come late fall. Now we have over 2,000 more homes going up and just sheer common sense states that Rt 3 cannot possibly handle this.

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Calique

10:25 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

Shoot, Rt 3 absolutely cannot handle what it has NOW!! The traffic signals so close together and impatient drivers combine to a probability to lead to lots more accidents.
I actually left a job in Bowie after a few months to avoid a commute down 3 because I hated it so much, and that was BEFORE the Michigan U-turns!
This whole to-do makes me mad, and I don't even live down there.
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Ryan Stavely

12:10 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Thanks, Tim - great summary.

If nothing else, the Evergreen road will allow people to avoid the Michigan U-turns?

I recall reading somewhere that the SHA indicated that the Michigan intersection was a failure and they were considering improvements. Any substance to that?

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Jeff Andrade

4:27 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

I avoid the Michigan U-turns if I need to go North on Route 3 by taking Dairy Farm Rd to 175, and they are not an issue if going south on Route 3 off Waugh Chapel Rd. Those using an Evergreen extension from PO to access Route 3 would have to deal with all the traffic in and out of the new shopping center and those wishing to go North on Route 3 would have to take a left after crossing the Route 3 southbound lanes. Looks like another Anne Arundel traffic hairball to me.

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david young

8:46 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Ok everyone, get your shotglasses ready! The game has commenced!

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Tim Lemke

12:32 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

@Ryan - I'm not sure if SHA considers it a failure, but there was a police officer quoted in the Crofton-West County Gazette who referred to it that way. I think the question for SHA is whether the challenges are the result of people just not being used to the pattern, or something more serious. I think SHA believes the pattern will make things better over time. It's just a change for most people.

You make a good point, which is that an extension of Evergreen Road would allow people to get to the Waugh Chapel Shopping Centers without going onto Route 3 at all. Someone who lives in Piney Orchard could just take Evergreen Road.

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Alan Simpson

1:42 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

I fall on the side that the drivers have failed to learn the pattern, not that the pattern is a failure. I think the michigan U is a good thing. I'm also not that concerned about the new road proposal. We need a cut through from PO to Route 3 that's not Waugh Chapel. Waugh Chapel is bad because there is no other way out.

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Ryan Stavely

4:35 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

I agree, I don't think that they're as terrible as some make it out to be. Hopefully once people get used to them, the confusion will subside some.

Instead of running the extension into GORC park, what about running it into Strawberry Lake way right were the WB&A trail crosses (between Settler's View Drive and Thicket Ct)? Would that be more palatable to people?

Trish White

1:43 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

I am sorry but if Arundel has space, why are we sending half of our kids from Crofton to South River HS? This school is much further and it would be great if we can get them back to Arundel. Shouldn't they get the priority?

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Gerri Cappuccio

3:01 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

The traffic is deplorable when both Arundel High School and the middle school are having classes. Just try getting out of a driveway on Higgins Drive. The middle school is old and antequated. The board of education consists of dullards who have never been in a classroom, nor are aware of the problems that occur in a school setting. Like the superintendent, they need to attend both the middle school and the high school. This area has needed a high school for about thirty years and it needs another middle school. Anne Arundel county does not take care of its citizens. Nothing is accomplished. The county has been talking about building new schools, new shoppping centers and accommodating the people for the last thirty years. Nothing has been completed except for a useless traffic circle.

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brick

10:01 am on Tuesday, July 17, 2012

I would like a new middle school in the Odenton area. Why is everyone upset about the new construction in Odenton? Odenton needs a new look and change. Can we get a new grocery store on Annapolis Road please?

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Catherine Soyars

12:36 pm on Tuesday, July 17, 2012

What is the land where the Two Rivers development and the proposed elementary school would be built used for at the current time?

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Ryan Stavely

1:09 pm on Tuesday, July 17, 2012

Nothing. The elementary school is proposed in the vacant area just south of the new shopping center at Waugh Chapel (it looks like around/behind where the go-kart track is on Rt 3.

The Two Rivers development is actually way over on the other side of Conway/Patuxent roads.

Here's a link to the plan (although the map is oriented upside down with South at the top, so it's a bit difficult to get your bearings): http://odenton.patch.com/articles/poll-should-evergreen-road-be-extended-to-piney-orchard#photo-10674325

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